Cass Knits!

so by this twit’s definition, me, of.all.people as a pro-choice liberal, am racist? Goodness, I think my blood pressure just went through the roof.
Thats about the biggest load of crap I’ve ever read.
What ends abortion, is ending poverty. I’m all for ending abortion. I hate that it takes place, but I’m all about fixing what causes women to want one in the first place (poverty, providing realistic sex education in conjunction with abstinence)

Well, yeah What was that about a big vermillion paintbrush?

But she specifically is talking about those who cite that study as “proof” that abortion is a good thing.

What ends poverty? The end of natural catastrophic disasters, all war, drought, famine, and epidemic disease. I don’t think pro-choicers can even accomplish this. See, it’s not children or child-bearing that causes poverty. It’s a laundry list of other factors. There simply isn’t a liberal, a Democrat, a Republican, an Independent, a Socialist, or a hippie born that can really end poverty. It’s logistically impossible.

More abortions can occur. More can practice birth control. Populations can decrease. That simply means that there is then a smaller workforce, smaller tax base, fewer consumers, more corporate downsizing due to fewer sales, and increased poverty.

I am for choice, too, but the choice I am for is a particular one - life.

“The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it. The same factors which create the terrible infant mortality rate, and which swell the death rate of children between the ages of one and five, operate even more extensively to lower the health rate of the surviving members.” –Margaret Sanger (1879–1966). Woman and the New Race. 1920.

Here she lists off the various races, calling them “stock” as if we are nothing more than herds of animals. She continues to list all the problems of poverty and its causes.

“…If we are to develop in America a new race with a racial soul, we must keep the birth rate within the scope of our ability to understand as well as to educate. We must not encourage reproduction beyond our capacity to assimilate our numbers so as to make the coming generation into such physically fit, mentally capable, socially alert individuals as are the ideal of a democracy…..Motherhood, when free to choose the father, free to choose the time and the number of children who shall result from the union, automatically works in wondrous ways. It refuses to bring forth weaklings; refuses to bring forth slaves; refuses to bear children who must live under the conditions described. It withholds the unfit, brings forth the fit; brings few children into homes where there is not sufficient to provide for them. Instinctively it avoids all those things which multiply racial handicaps.” –Margaret Sanger (1879–1966). Woman and the New Race. 1920.

Utopia?

Ann, I don’t want to clog up Cass’ blog comments too much (I feel bad about my long winded comment yesterday re: Roberts) so if we want to continue this discussion, feel free to drop me an email or we can take the discussion to my blog.
Ending poverty is a huge task, but is it not one to work for? Of course we can’t stop disasters, drought, etc. Wait we can stop war! We can stop epidemic disease! We can end hunger! At the very least, we can work TOWARDS ending those things. It makes me sick that we’ve spilled billions of wasted money in Iraq and there are people around the globe and in our own country, starving. People dying of AIDS in Africa and we throw them a mere pittance…then hand Halliburton billions.
Abortion is only a symptom of poverty, not its only cause.

So your next paragraph…
Stop abortion to fix the economy? Oy, What was that that Margaret Sanger said about cattle and herds? IF abortion is ever removed as an “option” for women, will birth control be next? Ask Rick Santorum, that lunatic is in that camp, he has made such statements.
I’ll give up my birth control, over my dead body. Actually without birth control, you may actually be looking at my dead body. Having more children could actually prove fatal in my case.

I’m not a huge fan of Margaret Sanger truthfully. I’m not hellbent on abortion, I’m not a cheerleader for such a practice. I’ve said many times. I think the practice is VILE. But I’m not willing to hand over MY body, and choices about it. There is too much risk AFTER the battle over abortion for other rights to be taken away.
But there is plenty that can be done before abortion, before pregnancy, to limit and seriously reduce its practice. Working on poverty is only the first step.

Oh, yes, please take all your comments some where else. I don’t want an exchange of ideas here, *ever*. SNORT!

Seriously, Consider this the water cooler of blogland, guys, and go ahead. It’s really what I had in mind for my blog. There really is only so much discussing one can do about sweaters.

you are a very sick women cass! why do you call yourself a christian when you allow this filth into your site. you sit back and spew one thing out of your mouth and live another. why do you even bother? do you enjoy entertaining satan?

Hi Maranda, and welcome to Cass Knits! It is obvious to me that either you can’t read, or you lack comprehension skills. You might look into an adult literacy program near you. There! THAT was probably un-Christian.

OTOH, if you meant to ask me about my view of black babies and abortion, go ahead and click the link. You’ll find the lady was discussing Bill Bennett’s comments, and has a valid argument, though it’s certainly NOT the argument it appears to be on the surface.

Wow Maranda. That’s a pretty searing comment. I think maybe you clicked the wrong link and commented to someone else’s post by mistake? If it’s no mistake, then you are obviously not thinking clearly. Satan gets no entertainmnent from Cass Knits, but a lot of entertainment from those who follow his lead in commenting back in such a way. hint. hint.

Oy, Miranda. See, what makes Cass such an incredible person, is that as well as being a good Christian woman, she believes in the exchanging of ideas and open debate.
See, if *you* were to try to talk to me about such things, I’d turn my back on you. I don’t do well with folks like yourself. Closed minds and all that.

Consider that not everyone is like you, holds your opinions, and still be able to embrace differences, and I’m sure you’d be a much happier person. And oh yeah, check into that literacy program. I’m not a devout Christian woman so I don’t feel so bad bringing it up.

Have a nice day!

Maranda, since when did having an open discussion on the important issue of abortion and poverty determine if one was Christian or not.

I have read the blog and comments several times and in no way do I see that Cass is a sick woman or a non-Christian.

Maybe, as a LPN that I worked with would say ‘You need some serious counseling’.

Cass, sorry to leave this comment on your blog but have no way of contacting Maranda directly.

Nellie, you said “Cass, sorry to leave this comment on your blog but have no way of contacting Maranda directly.”
See, thats exactly one of the problems. People like Maranda, do that on purpose. Coward.